Hello all...
It's probably about time I put my 10 cents worth into this discussion.
I'm in full support of Lloyd with this one - the bird in dispute to my eyes is
unmistakably a young Graceful. Apart from bill shape & length, the clincher for
me is the yellowish vertical belly midline - Yellow-spotteds never have this.
The 2 species often do occur together & in loose pairs, so no reason why 2
different individuals could be seen at same location only minutes apart.
Lloyd, David J & myself have seen these 2 species on a daily basis for years &
I think it's probably a fair call to suggest that we would be reasonably good
at making solid ID's, perhaps each of us with our own ideas of how to
differentiate these 2 species...
Clearly the second image is of a Yellow-spotted.
Cheers,
Martin Cachard
Cairns
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:14:02 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?
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> Hi David,
>
> I see your and Lloyds reasoning for the two-bird theory. However, the two
> pictures were taken a few minutes apart from each other, and to my memory
> Jeff said he had never seen more than one bird at a time. So, I am not sure
> if the differences seen in the two pictures are really species-related or
> rather photography-related (funny angle, different light, frozen snapshot
> that may or may not show the typical posture...). We all agree that the
> second picture shows a Yellow-spotted Honeyeater. I can only see one bird
> pictured, not two: If you look carefully at the details such as the exact
> shape of uneven areas in the naked skin of the gape as well as the detailed
> shape of the ear patch, they appear identical in both pictures. There is also
> no obvious difference in bill shape between the two pictures, although this
> is hard to tell because the bill is open in the first picture. I also don't
> see a difference in the intensity of stripes on the underparts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nikolas
>
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
>
> Brisbane, QLD
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David James <>
> To: Birding Aus <>
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:02 PM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Yellow-spotted or Graceful Honeyeater?
>
>
> Nikolas has sent me the other photo and I agree with Lloyd. The first is a
> Graceful and the second is a Yellow-spotted. It would be worth putting the
> second photo on the blog so everyone can see. The characters I mentioned in
> my first post should highlight the main differences between the two birds
>
> Cheers,
> David James
> Sydney
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