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Ticks & eBird

To: Michael Tarburton <>
Subject: Ticks & eBird
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:41:20 +1000
Mike,

I think you need a fair supply of salt when using data from sites like eBird, 
etc. not the fault of the lists, just the GIGO law at work.

Carl


> On 22 May 2015, at 12:15 pm, Michael Tarburton <> 
> wrote:
> 
> G'day Tickers & bird watchers
> 
> Carl, what makes your observation worse is that when each of the persons on 
> the tour then go and send those identical lists to eBird.  I get very 
> frustrated trying to gather swift data from eBird, where I have had up to 8 
> identical lists for the same place on the same day.  Sometimes they admit 
> there were others with them sometimes they do not.
> 
> Happy birding
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
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> ===================
> Michael Tarburton
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>> On 11/05/2015, at 3:51 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
>> 
>> I think that occurs on quite a few group tours, with the leaders collecting 
>> the individual sightings for their records, and some of the group just using 
>> the "master" list as their own sightings. Guess it is a matter of conscience.
>> 
>> Carl Clifford
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 May 2015, at 1:31 pm, Denise Goodfellow <> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip.  As the guide 
>>> reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked them off his list, 
>>> without looking up!
>>> 
>>> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
>>> PO Box 71
>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>> 043 8650 835
>>> 
>>> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
>>> 
>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International  Ecotourism Award, 
>>> 2004.
>>> 
>>> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent 
>>> becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
>>> 
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>>>> On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That's not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see the bird 
>>>> but wasn't able to identify it, and was just making sure Tim was certain 
>>>> of the id. 
>>>> 
>>>> My OBP tick wouldn't be a tick if there hadn't been an expert there to 
>>>> tell me it wasn't a Blue-wing. Normally I'd want to id it myself, but I 
>>>> figure there aren't going to be many chances to try again, and it's not 
>>>> that much different to taking a photo and asking an expert later.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter Shute
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Birding-Aus 
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>>>>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 10:45 AM
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling 
>>>>> me about a client who asked him (Tim) "Did you see that well 
>>>>> enough for me to tick it?"
>>>>> David Robertson
>>>>> Adelaide
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