Minutes of Teaching Commitee Meeting of 7 July 2000
Present or in attendance: Koo, Beshay, Sowmya, Chakravarty, Robinson,
Buckland, Shepherd, ElGindy, JXue, Lambert, Wilson (chair), Heiser,
Mahidadia, Potter, Nymeyer
- Proposals for streamed versions of COMP1011,
COMP1021, COMP2011. Issues relating to streaming were debated
vigorously for about an hour. The discussion ranged over the
benefits, educational and administrative, of streaming, mechanisms
of assessment. A number of speakers favoured retaining common
assessment for Higher and regular versions of a course, in part
to allow easy migration between streams. It was noted in passing
that at least some students, including many of the weaker students,
find practical programming exams particularly harrowing.
The meeting resolved (11 in favour, 2 abstentions, 1 against)
that new course proposals based on the handbook entries discussed
should go forward to the Faculty Education Committee and to the
Cross-Faculty Science Committee.
- The chairman reminded those attending of the decision at the
recent academic staff retreat to support the concept of teaching
clusters. Members noted that teaching clusters could have a role
both in the allcoation process and in curriculum development.
Nascent clusters are asked to provide brief (3 line)
summaries of likely membership and coverage - e-mail to billw.
- John Shepherd and Tim Lambert undertook to
prepare a brief paper outlining the reasons for the School taking
responsibility for the CS degree and transferring it from Science
to Engineering. This paper should go to
the Faculty Standing Committee, and subsequently to the
Cross-Faculty Committee on Science and higher committees
within the University.
- Hossam ElGindy and John Potter reported on the progress of the
sub-committees/task forces that they chair. Discussion tended to
elaborate and clarify the roles of these groups, one of which
originated outside the TC.
- The proposal to change the name of COMP3131/9102 Parsing and Translation
to Programming Languages and Compilers, and
revise the content, was approved after fairly extensive
- The proposals to introduce new combined programs:
were treated as follows. The chairman was to establish
whether the SE and CE programs are covered by a blanket
agreement between Engineering and Commerce on a generic
BE/MCom. If so, then there is less hurry to have specific
agreements ratified. If not, then the CE/MCom proposal
should go forward to the Faculty Education Committee.
As Ken Robinson pointed out, SE is a special case, as it
already includes Faculty of Commerce material, and it may
be possible to negotiate with Commerce for a combined
program that sacrifices less SE electives. Ken also drew
the TC's attention to the fact that it may be possible
to use some of the commerce courses taken while the student
is an undergraduate to fulfil the General Education
requirement. If this is possible, then this will be used to
re-claim some CE electives in the CE/MCom proposal, too.
The remaining items (see below) were deferred to a later meeting
and the meeting adjourned at 4.44pm.
- Second year CS program is in a mess because the CS students are
not well placed to take COMP2021 in first session (they have no
hardware background, unlike the CE students taking COMP2021 in
first session). This means that they have difficulty choosing
enough courses in first session. John Shepherd will introduce
- Special facilities for special teaching needs. There are proposals
for an alpha cluster for Distributed Systems COMP9243 and
for a Mac lab for COMP9511/COMP3511. These are in large part FC
concerns, but the TC should comment on the degree of need for
these facilities from the teaching perspective.
- Plagiarism handling policy. Should we have a database of
previous plagiarism cases? What penalties should there be
for repeat offenders?
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