Minutes of Teaching Management Committee Meeting 20 March 2007


Present: Bill Wilson (chair), Bruno Gaeta, Tim Lambert, Eric Martin, Sri Parameswaran, Ken Robinson John Shepherd.
Apologies: Cassandra Nock, Andrew Taylor

  1. Arrangement of agenda

  2. Review of the role of Teaching Management Committee
    Item not addressed

  3. HESA Compliance - confirming 07s2 course offerings for BINF, COMP, SENG and ENGG1811, ENGG1000.
    By the time the postponed meeting was held, the deadline for this had passed.

  4. Should we run COMP4910/COMP4911 and friends in summer session?
    Answered in the affirmative. Availability of topics is subject to the freely-given agreement of supervisors. All Thesis A/B courses managed by the School are covered. JAS

  5. Maths runs Maths 1B in second session and summer session, but not first session. We run Computing 2 (COMP1921) all three sessions. Should we drop COMP1921 in session 1? Argument against: makes it harder for UGs starting mid-year. Argument for: saves resources.
    This is not necessary at present, but the meeting noted that it might become necessary as one of many possible cost-cutting measures if the School budget deteriorates.

  6. Follow-up of CATEI summaries and other potential indicators of problems with courses, including failure rates, drop-out rates, CEQ scores, progression rates.
    The Student Office is asked to investigate whether it is possible to have automatic CATEI-online surveying of all courses, every semester, and to implement this, if so. Cassandra Nock/Colin Taylor
    The meeting recommended that the Head of School should release the distribution of CATEI mean-student ratings (
    not identified by course code) each session. Paul Compton
    The meeting agreed to the implementation, by Andrew Taylor, of a survey of students' reasons for dropping out of courses, including a retrospective survey of 07x1 in this regard. AndrewT
    The meeting discussed whether the "CEQ" survey was now necessary, if automatic CATEI-online surveying can be implemented. No firm conclusion was reached, with some favouring retiring the "CEQ" survey to reduce survey-load the students, and others favouring its retention because its results are widely available and it thus provides transparency within the School on course quality (as perceived by students).

  7. Course outline compliance
    The meeting recommended that a template for course outlines be devised and distributed to lecturers for use in 07s2. BillW, JAS

  8. Review of plagiarism process (including School plagiarism log)
    Two recommendations:

  9. Transitional arrangements for students who did COMP1011 etc., but missed out on Java and OO in COMP2011.
    • The TMC affirmed Richard Buckland's solution (Java bridging course) noting that this is provided voluntarily by Richard and that another solution would have to be found if Richard is at some stage unable or unwilling to do the bridging course.
    • An alternative solution, to be implemented by UG program directors in cases where they think that, on balance, it is in the student's best interest, is to urge the student to take COMP2911 as an extra course (CS) or allow/require the student to substitute COMP2911 for a professional elective (BE degrees). Cassandra Nock and undergrad to be aware of this possibility
    • A revised list of courses that actually require or would benefit from students knowing Java was requested. BillW
      Bill notes: so far we have: COMP9321, COMP9322, COMP9323, COMP9324, COMP3311, COMP9314 (advanced-level Java), COMP9318, COMP9031, COMP9333 (students would benefit), COMP3111/9008 (any OO language OK), COMP3131/9102 (absolute requirement), SENG2020, COMP3331/9331 (not mandatory, but common choice for assignments), COMP9417 (students would benefit).

  10. Impact of new UNSW timetable in 2008.

  11. Role of the TMC continued from previous meeting. Here are JAS's suggestions on this:

  12. Replacement of Andrew Taylor as Director of First Year Studies. Andrew's role has gone well beyond First Year, and perhaps the replacement should bear the title of "Director of Studies" or "Teaching Director".
    HoS is working on this.
    Under this item, I (Bill) would also like to propose a vote of thanks to Andrew for all he has done in his Director role over the years.
    The TMC passed by acclamation this vote of thanks to Andrew.

  13. There are currently 3 MIT students enrolled in COMP9041=COMP2041 (out of 23). Should this be prevented in future? Current prerequisite is COMP9021, or enrolment in MIT program 8684 or GradCert program 7344.
    Prerequisite to be changed so that 8684 and 7344 students are excluded from enrolling in COMP9041, and COMP9041 moved to group A. The PG coursework program director has the discretion to vary this in special cases. Cassandra Nock

  14. Any other business


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