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Ibis habitat destroyed

To: Greg and Val Clancy <>
Subject: Ibis habitat destroyed
From: Tim Hosking <>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 05:02:46 +0000
Hi Greg,

Good info.

They are crafty birds so it shouldn't probably surprise us that much - SNIbis 
stronghold areas like the Macquarie Marshes have been experiencing the effects 
of well below 80th percentile catchment rainfall over the past three years, 
with no major colonies forming up.  The Narran and Gwydir have also been pretty 
quiet.  Our environmental water can only do so much without rain.

Cheers Tim

Tim Hosking
Senior Wetlands and Rivers Conservation Officer | NSW Office of Environment and 
Heritage
PO Box 2111 DUBBO 2830  |  Ph: (02) 6883 5329  |  Mob: 0438600837


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg and Val Clancy 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:58 PM
To: Peter Shute; 'Denise Goodfellow'; birding-aus
Subject: Ibis habitat destroyed

A worrying fact is that in the past few years Straw-necked Ibis have been 
recorded nesting at Lawrence, on the New South Wales North Coast.  This would 
suggest that species other than the Australian White Ibis are finding nesting 
opportunities in traditional Murray-Darling and other inland sites
deficient.   I don't mind the Straw-necked Ibis nesting locally, it is a
great event, but I worry about what it is saying about humans' mismanagement of 
inland waterways.  Straw-necked Ibis have never nesting locally in the past as 
far as I am aware.



Regards
Greg
Dr Greg. P. Clancy,
Ecologist and Birding-wildlife  Guide
| PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
| 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601  960
http://www.gregclancyecologistguide.com
http://gregswildliferamblings.blogspot.com.au/



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shute
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:02 PM
To: 'Denise Goodfellow' ; birding-aus
Subject: Ibis habitat destroyed

Things may have changed since that article was written in 2007. The same 
article was discussed on this list in 2008:
http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/html/birding-aus/2008-01/msg00268.html

Peter Shute

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> From: Birding-Aus  On
> Behalf Of Denise Goodfellow
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 8:41 AM
> To: birding-aus <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ibis habitat destroyed
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> Morning all
>
> Cali has just sent me this quote regarding the status of White Ibis.
> Given that
> some of us thought they were doing well enough to be considered a pest
> would anyone like to comment?
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> "But scientists fear they may become extinct as more pressure is put
> on their native and adopted environments." - source
> http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2007/11/15/2182311.htm
> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
> 043 8650 835
>
> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
>
> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast's International  Ecotourism
> Award, 2004.
>
> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this
> continent becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
>
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> On 29 Nov 2015, at 3:09 pm, Ross Macfarlane (TPG) <>
> wrote:
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> > I tend to agree. White ibises overall are more than fine as a result of
> > them
> doing well around human habitation (I grieve to hear such beautiful birds
> being called "bin chickens", but that's another matter). The effect of the
> loss
> of habitat on endangered woodland birds is what is of most concern. How
> much of a loss the habitat along Westconnex is, I couldn't say.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus  On
> > Behalf Of David Clark
> > Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2015 3:05 PM
> > To: Philip Veerman
> > Cc: birding-aus; Denise Goodfellow
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ibis habitat destroyed
> >
> > Philip, Denise and others
> >
> > My view is that what folk think about Ibis is largely irrelevant.
> >
> > I am more concerned about the potential loss of habitat.  I assume that
> > the
> developers are required to offset habitat loss and there should be a net
> gain.
> However, such works are often at the tail end of construction so there
> will be
> a period where there is no suitable habitat for Ibis and other creatures.
> >
> > It would be worth looking at the environmental effects statement for the
> project and the environmental management plan (or whatever it's called)
> before taking this matter up with whoever is responsible.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > David
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 29 Nov 2015, at 12:05 PM, Philip Veerman <>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have given an answer to Denise, based on my observing the Ibis in
> >> Sydney, but will not send to the list so quickly. I am curious what
> >> other attitudes are out there, before giving my own influence. But
> >> ask me if you are interested. The one thing I will add for now is the
> >> discussion not so long ago about their nickname as "dump chooks /
> turkeys".
> >>
> >> Philip
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Birding-Aus  On
> >> Behalf Of Denise Goodfellow
> >> Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2015 8:03 AM
> >> To: birding-aus
> >> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ibis habitat destroyed
> >>
> >> I've just received this email. Does anyone out there have any
> >> information, an opinion?
> >>
> >> Dear Denise, I wanted to ask your advice: here in Sydney they are
> >> carving up the side of the road to create the biggest infrastructure
> >> in the country The West Connex. It breaks my heart every time I see
> >> it because the beautiful Ibis that used to nest in big gatherings
> >> have had their habitat entirely destroyed not to mention now Ibis
> >> sitting on tree stumps where everything has been chopped down in
> >> preparation for the next stage of development. Dead Ibis scatter the
> >> freeway- it is appalling - do you know what I can do to raise this
> >> issue?
> >> Cali Prince
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Denise
> >> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
> >> PO Box 71
> >> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
> >> 043 8650 835
> >>
> >> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
> >>
> >> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia Nominated by Earthfoot for
> >> Condé Nast's International  Ecotourism Award, 2004.
> >>
> >> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this
> >> continent becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
> >>
> >>
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