Minutes of Teaching Committee Meeting - 8 September 2000
Present: jas, adal, dank, steve, ashesh, chak, kaie, potter, lambert,
arun, billw (chair), andrewt, odiessel
Apologies: Sowmya, El-Gindy, Beshay
- Matters arising from the minutes of the last meeting:
- Construction of School TSP web page.
Tim Lambert tabled a draft policy. Following discussion, Tim
was going to arrange for the draft policy, suitably modified,
to appear on the School web pages.
- Report of Potter committee.
After discussion, it was agreed that the COMP1021 course
description would be modified in the Handbook entry so as
to avoid any commitment to object-oriented programming or
Java. The committee would elaborate aspects of its proposal
and present it to a School meeting after the mid-session
- COMP9022 in second sessions. We are currently feeling the displeasure
of PG students who have been forced to enrol in COMP2021 in second
session because COMP9022 is currently only run in first session.
Should we reconsider on this? Should all/popular/core PG courses
have repeat lectures so that they are available day and evening?
Particularly UG/PG pairs like COMP3231/9201, COMP3131/9102,
COMP3111/9008, COMP3121/9101 (using second session examples)?
John Shepherd will introduce the discussion.
- Weighted average formula for use in determining grade of honours
in SE and CE. The current formula is complex - particularly for
double degree students, and especially BE/MBiomedE - can we simplify
Following discussion, Steve Matheson and Cassandra Nock will design
and implement a simplified algorithm.
- BE(Computer Eng)/MCom proposal - details
Approved. Goes to Fac. Ed. Ctee as soon as possible.
- Future of COMP1091: This course was taught for the first time in
first session this year. Should it be taught in both sessions
next year? What is it's future and how does it fit in with other
courses that we offer?
To be offered in first session next year. The further future
of COMP1091 will be discussed in connection with the actions to
be taken in relation to the Potter committee recommendations on
the use of C in COMP1021.
- What courses will be offered in which sessions in 2001. (So far,
the TC has decided on COMP1021 and COMP3421/9415 in 01x1.) This
year's courses are shown at:
2000 session 1 allocation and
2000 session 2 allocation.
Draft course offerings in 2001 approved by TC.
After discussion, a list was provided to Rita Bautarua. Rita will
be mailing staff responsible for courses where there was some question
as to whether they would run.
A related issue is teaching allocation for 2001, particularly for
first and second year courses. Andrew
|Course||LIC Session 1||LIC Session 2||LIC Summer|
|COMP1711||Buckland||not offered||not offered|
|COMP1721||not offered||Taylor||not offered|
|COMP2041||Shepherd||not offered||not offered|
Recommendations have been sent to the HoS for comment.
- The Database Cluster has produced a proposal for course revision and
some proposed constraints on teaching allocation. See
DB Proposal Details.
Following discussion, the Database cluster members were encouraged
to bring a more detailed proposal to the next TC meeting, explaining
in particular the relationship between COMP2311 and INFS's Business
- ELEC have, in JAS's words "bitten the bullet on 4th year Thesis vs
Project and introduced a new Project subject for students with
low averages (specifically, less than 65%)." This is somewhat consistent
with the practice in the Advanced Science program and of course in
Computer Science of only letting students with 65+ averages do
honours. Do we want to review our policy on this?
- Quality assurance measures for teaching. Should we be having an
extra person (perhaps a program coordinator or director of first
year studies) acting in a specific quality assurance role for each
course we offer?
- In connection with the discussion on same-gender tuts in COMP 1A,
Sowmya raises two issues for discussion by the TC:
- "Directions regarding policy making versus implementation in
various matters. In the tutorials case, it was not clear who
had sanctioned the policy of same-gender tuts. The implementation
and policy making seemed to have been conflated. We need to
- "Indirectly, this raises the issue of what is legitimate use
of student (and other) data that is given to us by the university.
We have always had access to students' personal details, including
gender, but not used it in our teaching/research before this,
by my knowledge. Some data collected by the university may be considered
`for statistical purposes' only. Is that so in this case or not?
If the personal data could be put to other uses, then should we not
state that upfront at first year enrolment time?"
After discussion, it was agreed that single gender tutorials for
female students would be optional if they were used at all. The issue
of whether all or some courses should provide this option was deferred
until the results of relevant student survey questions are available."
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